why i love the simpsons

topic posted Mon, April 19, 2004 - 7:34 PM by  moonhilda
it incorporates both aspects of highbrow and lowbrow so well. how many shows can go seamlessly from broadway musical to black sabbath in the same storyline?
  • Re: why i love the simpsons

    Mon, May 3, 2004 - 3:22 PM
    which episode are we talking about here?
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      Mon, May 3, 2004 - 4:54 PM
      The episode based on Evita where Lisa and Nelson run for school president. I forgot exactly what's said, but at one point after a rousing musical solo by lisa where everyone decides to vote for her, nelson is left alone singing the chorus from Iron Man.
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        Tue, May 4, 2004 - 3:48 PM
        Oh yeah, I remember that one.

        Some would argue whether Evita counts as legitimate theater, but, yeah, that's the triumph of the Simpsons.

        Do you remember the bit on 21 Short Films About Glenn Gould? *That* was a really obscure reference. And yet, the core material was so unique that the episode didn't miss a beat, didn't lose the crowd or diminish the film.

        Quite possibly the best highbrow-lowbrow example, ever.
        • Re: why i love the simpsons

          Tue, May 4, 2004 - 3:57 PM
          well, i did say broadway musical.

          refresh my ever-fading memory...which was the glenn gould episode?
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            Tue, May 4, 2004 - 6:59 PM
            It's the one that opens with Bart and Milhouse about to drop something off a bridge, then one of them complains that nothing ever happens in their town. And we get a bunch of different, interconnected takes on what's going on around Springfield.

            So... who's Staycie? She looks sorta HOT.
            • Re: why I love the simpsons

              Wed, May 5, 2004 - 3:57 PM
              Wasn't that the Pulp Fiction episode?
              • Re: why I love the simpsons

                Wed, May 5, 2004 - 5:02 PM
                see, that's what i thought it was.
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                  Thu, May 27, 2004 - 1:26 PM
                  From the NY Times:


                  The Season Finale That Isn't a Season Finale
                  By ROBERT LEVINE

                  Published: May 23, 2004

                  HE episode of "The Simpsons" that will be shown
                  tonight at 8, the finale of the Fox hit's 15th season,
                  includes pointed social satire, Capraesque small-town
                  sentiment, broad physical humor and sly
                  self-referential jokes. What it doesn't have, in a
                  time when sitcoms like "Friends" and "Frasier"
                  featured plot arcs that played out over the course of
                  a year, is any reference to the fact that it's the
                  last show of the season.


                  In "The Simpsons," everything is neatly tied up at the
                  end of an episode. Whatever happens that week, whether
                  Homer buys a professional baseball team, starts an
                  Internet business or goes to Alcatraz with his family
                  on charges of treason — and he has done all of these —
                  is resolved in 22 minutes and conveniently forgotten
                  by the next week. Bart is forever in fourth grade, and
                  Maggie, the baby, will never talk. Whenever tonight's
                  episode is seen in syndication, it will be difficult
                  to tell that it's a season finale — or even what
                  season it's from.

                  That consistency is one reason the show is one of the
                  longest-running sitcoms in history. As actors on
                  live-action programs age, "the viewer looks at it and
                  says, `The show isn't the show I loved 10 years ago,'
                  " said Al Jean, the executive producer, who has been
                  with the series since it began and has supervised its
                  writing staff for three years. "That doesn't happen to
                  us."

                  But the lack of change also makes it challenging to
                  keep "The Simpsons" fresh: the writers will never have
                  to deal with Bart hitting puberty, but neither will
                  they be able to use it as a source of material. Since
                  the writers long ago used up the obvious stories about
                  the family, many plots now focus on the secondary
                  characters who populate their hometown, Springfield,
                  like the comically strait-laced Principal Skinner and
                  the Borscht Belt-damaged entertainer Krusty the Clown.

                  "One of the reasons for our longevity is that we've
                  been able to flesh out the town, so we have all these
                  characters we can bring in," Mr. Jean said. "If you
                  want a doctor, we have a doctor. If you want a mayor,
                  we have a mayor. It's harder to do a live-action show
                  with the same five people in a living room." Tonight's
                  episode involves Mr. Burns, the wraithlike Scrooge who
                  owns the town's nuclear power plant, as he buys up
                  Springfield's newspapers and television stations. But
                  whichever character drives the plot, "The Simpsons" is
                  a series about the family, so every main story must
                  involve Homer, Marge, Bart or Lisa. In this case, the
                  writers decided that idealistic Lisa would be the
                  little guy to Mr. Burns's corporate bully. "I pitched
                  it as a Frank Capra story for media consolidation,"
                  said Don Payne, who wrote the episode and has been
                  with the show for six seasons.

                  "The Simpsons" is structured in three acts, separated
                  by commercial breaks, and the actual plot plays out
                  over the second and third. "The first act is generally
                  a set piece," Mr. Payne said. "You want it to be
                  free-form and fun." Tonight it's a gathering of
                  everyone in Springfield, a device the writers use
                  often because it offers a reason to assemble the funny
                  secondary characters. The event, presided over by the
                  deadpan TV anchorman Kent Brockman, is a salute to
                  Geezer Rock — Springfield's version of the Old Man of
                  the Mountain, the New Hampshire landmark that
                  collapsed last year. The jokes are rapid-fire and
                  random: Brockman says the rock "will soon be more than
                  just a place for teens to have sex and commit
                  suicide," and the scene cuts to a teenager jumping
                  off, asking, "Why did they cancel `Futurama?' " — a
                  reference to another show created by Matt Groening,
                  the man behind "The Simpsons."

                  While Lisa reads a poem about Geezer Rock, Homer
                  causes an avalanche that buries Mr. Burns. He gets
                  trapped underground, and in one of the weird visual
                  riffs that are the hallmark of the show, he's seen
                  getting nourishment by catching bugs and suckling at
                  the breast of a mole. He makes it back to his mansion,
                  only to turn on his TV and hear Kent Brockman refer to
                  him as a greedy tycoon, so he vows to "change this
                  town's accurate impression of me." As he buys every
                  news business in town, he runs up against Lisa, who
                  has started a newspaper.


                  The narrative of tonight's show hasn't changed much
                  since he pitched the story in June, Mr. Payne said.
                  But the pace of "The Simpsons" requires writing and
                  rewriting to ensure that every minute of the show is
                  packed with jokes and pop culture references, and the
                  lengthy animation process gives the writers months to
                  do that. As with most comedies, the scriptwriting
                  process is highly collaborative; after Mr. Payne's
                  idea was accepted, the staff of 20 writers
                  brainstormed about how it might play out.
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                  The story was visually simple and full of dialogue, so
                  much of the work in the writers' room involved
                  punching it up. "If a show seems too talky, it's a
                  good idea to throw in a TV parody or a cartoon," Mr.
                  Jean said, referring to the way the series often cuts
                  to the television its characters are watching. One of
                  the recurring devices is "The Itchy and Scratchy
                  Show," in which an animated cat and mouse kill each
                  other in grotesque ways; tonight Mr. Burns takes it
                  over to shill for nuclear power. (Scratchy asks about
                  the relative safety of wind power and is promptly
                  decapitated by a windmill.) "It's a commercial for
                  nuclear power, so there's a satirical point," Mr. Jean
                  said. "But if you're 3 years old and you have no idea
                  what's going on, you'll still laugh at what happens to
                  the cartoon characters."

                  Because it's about the media, this episode has more
                  clever references than most. At one point, one of
                  Lisa's friends, Milhouse, admits that he filed a story
                  from Baghdad when he was actually in Basra — a sendup
                  of recent journalism scandals. "We try not to write
                  down to people," Mr. Payne said. "If you're in on the
                  joke, fine. If not, you might find it funny for some
                  other reason."

                  At the end of this episode, Lisa's example inspires
                  many of the residents of Springfield to start their
                  own newspapers. "Instead of one big-shot controlling
                  all the media," Homer says, "now there's a thousand
                  freaks Xeroxing their worthless opinions." But in the
                  fall, when the 16th season of "The Simpsons" begins,
                  all those publications will be forgotten, neither Mr.
                  Burns nor Lisa will remember their feud, and the
                  Simpsons will be sucked into another great adventure.

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